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like most well-founded arguments, this one feels incomplete to me.so i hear oreo supports gays now.  to the bigots, that must mean the devil has taken over the company.  to the gays, that means oreo is SUPER GREAT and you should support them and buy all their products because they’re okay with you getting married.look, i am a huge GLBT supporter.  i’ve got the HRC sticker on my car; i was in long-term relationships with two women; i went through a gender identity crisis a few years ago and i believe in the abolishment of all gender norms/stereotypes.  what i don’t support is bullshit, and the idea that a company is somehow “good” just because it suddenly makes a public statement of support for a popular social issue, or suddenly “bad” because of said support, when the company was already fucking corrupt to begin with.  anyone who doesn’t see that processed cheese is worse for the world than two dicks rubbing together should go ahead and relieve the planet of their own existence.oreos are made by kraft foods, the world’s second largest food corporation.  isn’t that funny?  the second largest food corporation on the planet doesn’t provide one single item that is actually good for our bodies.  i’m so susprised.  -_-  so who fucking cares if they support gays?  it’s just a marketing scheme.  they’ve done far more damage than good.  the rest of the companies this person lists are corrupt and unethical too; gay support doens’t redeem them.  mac, gap, starbucks… if you actually believe that the choices you make every time you stand at the cash register don’t matter - or worse yet, choose to ignore it - you don’t deserve to be alive, because you’re just contributing to all the bullshit.i have an iphone.  i’ll admit it.  my boyfriend needed one for work and he bought me one too.  i’ve had a macbook for 6 years, bought long before i ever thought about the ethical value of corporations.  but to be honest, there really isn’t a corporation out there that isn’t corrupt on some level, in some way, to some degree.  you’d have to take your ass to the wilderness, somehow grow all your own food (without killing animals), and make all your own clothes out of the shit you find in nature, to have zero negative impact on society or the environment.  we can’t do that.  what we can do is be conscious of our choices.  maybe next time i don’t buy another macbook; maybe i look around and find the electronics company that is least shady.  be aware of the fuel you put in your body - of where it comes from and what happens to it, or who made it and whether they were treated or compensated fairly for their work and products.  do research.  some companies are more ethical than others.  it doesn’t take a lot of effort or sacrifice to avoid the worst ones.  the more gradual changes we make, the better chance we have of eventually abolishing all the bad.  change starts small.  but the bottom line is, at this point in society, companies are out for one thing: profit.  that’s it.  the ones that treat their employees well only do so because they want their employees to be satisfied enough to work hard and effectively and in turn generate more revenue.  giving to charities or supporting a cause is all about image.  people see them as generous and trustworthy and are more likely to buy their products.  the end.  it cannot be sugarcoated.  it’s fucking business.let me put it this way: 95% of every tv ad you see is bullshit, run by an unethical company that harms the environment, people, and/or animals.  if you think this is wrong, you’re ignorant.nice read.you know what else really grinds my gears?  when people toss all their mindless support to celebrities for supporting some good cause.  oh, really?  the celebrity with the $10 million house gave a million bucks to a charity?  I’M SURE THAT WAS A REAL SACRIFICE FOR THEM.  fuck them.  fuck the 1%.  it’s not a crime to be wealthy, but don’t go around acting like you’re some sort of gracious humanitarian for giving to someone else if you’re still living in luxury.  hypocrisy and lies are far worse than wealth.and finally, remember not all nonprofits are worth giving to.  cancer, diabetes… those are things that can be treated without drugs, without the giant organizations pushing medicine and drugs and and chemical treatments on their patients.  think i’m out of line making statements like that?  think i’m some tree-hugging naturalist hippie who’s into aura cleansing?  i’m not.  i just do my research.  so do yours.  it’s amazing how significantly your ways of viewing the world can shift with a few keystrokes or mouse clicks.life hasn’t been easier or more pleasant since i started becoming aware of the world and my role in it - since i gave up theism, meat-eating, and learned more about the structure of our society and economy.  in fact, it fucking sucks.  there was never a truer statement than “ignorance is bliss.”  now when i go shopping, i don’t just buy bananas.  my mind automatically provides the dilemma: do i walk half a mile to target to get unethically produced bananas, or expel 16 miles of car exhaust into the atmosphere to drive to whole foods to get organic ones?  i can’t enjoy pizza anymore, because i know some animal was mistreated or tortured so i could chomp down on cheese.  life fucking sucks when you’re aware.  you can no longer just mindlessly float through your day or your life, unaware of the reality that is outside your own little first-world bubble.  and you can never turn it off - you can never un-learn; never go back.but for some reason, i never seem to regret it for a second.  living truthfully and in awareness isn’t easy, but it’s right and it’s worth it.

like most well-founded arguments, this one feels incomplete to me.

so i hear oreo supports gays now.  to the bigots, that must mean the devil has taken over the company.  to the gays, that means oreo is SUPER GREAT and you should support them and buy all their products because they’re okay with you getting married.

look, i am a huge GLBT supporter.  i’ve got the HRC sticker on my car; i was in long-term relationships with two women; i went through a gender identity crisis a few years ago and i believe in the abolishment of all gender norms/stereotypes.  what i don’t support is bullshit, and the idea that a company is somehow “good” just because it suddenly makes a public statement of support for a popular social issue, or suddenly “bad” because of said support, when the company was already fucking corrupt to begin with.  anyone who doesn’t see that processed cheese is worse for the world than two dicks rubbing together should go ahead and relieve the planet of their own existence.

oreos are made by kraft foods, the world’s second largest food corporation.  isn’t that funny?  the second largest food corporation on the planet doesn’t provide one single item that is actually good for our bodies.  i’m so susprised.  -_-  so who fucking cares if they support gays?  it’s just a marketing scheme.  they’ve done far more damage than good.  the rest of the companies this person lists are corrupt and unethical too; gay support doens’t redeem them.  mac, gap, starbucks… if you actually believe that the choices you make every time you stand at the cash register don’t matter - or worse yet, choose to ignore it - you don’t deserve to be alive, because you’re just contributing to all the bullshit.

i have an iphone.  i’ll admit it.  my boyfriend needed one for work and he bought me one too.  i’ve had a macbook for 6 years, bought long before i ever thought about the ethical value of corporations.  but to be honest, there really isn’t a corporation out there that isn’t corrupt on some level, in some way, to some degree.  you’d have to take your ass to the wilderness, somehow grow all your own food (without killing animals), and make all your own clothes out of the shit you find in nature, to have zero negative impact on society or the environment.  we can’t do that.  what we can do is be conscious of our choices.  maybe next time i don’t buy another macbook; maybe i look around and find the electronics company that is least shady.  be aware of the fuel you put in your body - of where it comes from and what happens to it, or who made it and whether they were treated or compensated fairly for their work and products.  do research.  some companies are more ethical than others.  it doesn’t take a lot of effort or sacrifice to avoid the worst ones.  the more gradual changes we make, the better chance we have of eventually abolishing all the bad.  change starts small.  but the bottom line is, at this point in society, companies are out for one thing: profit.  that’s it.  the ones that treat their employees well only do so because they want their employees to be satisfied enough to work hard and effectively and in turn generate more revenue.  giving to charities or supporting a cause is all about image.  people see them as generous and trustworthy and are more likely to buy their products.  the end.  it cannot be sugarcoated.  it’s fucking business.

let me put it this way: 95% of every tv ad you see is bullshit, run by an unethical company that harms the environment, people, and/or animals.  if you think this is wrong, you’re ignorant.

nice read.

you know what else really grinds my gears?  when people toss all their mindless support to celebrities for supporting some good cause.  oh, really?  the celebrity with the $10 million house gave a million bucks to a charity?  I’M SURE THAT WAS A REAL SACRIFICE FOR THEM.  fuck them.  fuck the 1%.  it’s not a crime to be wealthy, but don’t go around acting like you’re some sort of gracious humanitarian for giving to someone else if you’re still living in luxury.  hypocrisy and lies are far worse than wealth.

and finally, remember not all nonprofits are worth giving to.  cancer, diabetes… those are things that can be treated without drugs, without the giant organizations pushing medicine and drugs and and chemical treatments on their patients.  think i’m out of line making statements like that?  think i’m some tree-hugging naturalist hippie who’s into aura cleansing?  i’m not.  i just do my research.  so do yours.  it’s amazing how significantly your ways of viewing the world can shift with a few keystrokes or mouse clicks.

life hasn’t been easier or more pleasant since i started becoming aware of the world and my role in it - since i gave up theism, meat-eating, and learned more about the structure of our society and economy.  in fact, it fucking sucks.  there was never a truer statement than “ignorance is bliss.”  now when i go shopping, i don’t just buy bananas.  my mind automatically provides the dilemma: do i walk half a mile to target to get unethically produced bananas, or expel 16 miles of car exhaust into the atmosphere to drive to whole foods to get organic ones?  i can’t enjoy pizza anymore, because i know some animal was mistreated or tortured so i could chomp down on cheese.  life fucking sucks when you’re aware.  you can no longer just mindlessly float through your day or your life, unaware of the reality that is outside your own little first-world bubble.  and you can never turn it off - you can never un-learn; never go back.

but for some reason, i never seem to regret it for a second.  living truthfully and in awareness isn’t easy, but it’s right and it’s worth it.

 
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