Please tell me, what are our options?
I hope you realize that if we were all to become vegan, the amount of soy product we would need to keep us all fed would take up so much land and resources we’d be killing animals by doing it.
Not to mention that humans aren’t the only…
“There is nothing more ‘elitist’ than thinking our palate pleasure can ever justify a second of suffering or a single death.” -Gary L. Francione
Please politely urge school and county administrators to replace this cruel and dangerous event with one in which all participants choose to be involved.
Please take a few moments to send emails to these individuals. I know this is “band-aid” activism (treating symptoms rather than eliminating the disease - e.g., PETA versus Vegan Outreach), but if we can stop these donkeys from being exploited tomorrow, it’s worth it.
1st QUESTION: The speaker has said that going to an office everyday from nine to five is an intolerable imprisonment. But in any society all kinds of jobs ha…
Sure, you can avoid this. You can mooch off others or live off a trust fund if you’re lucky, but the rest of us can’t. The rest of us don’t have resources to support us in order for us to survive, other than having a job.
That’s where The Venus Project comes in, but the realization of that is a long way off.
Still, this video is encouraging to me because I harbor such anger and resentment and hatred toward my 8-5 grind, even though my job is fine and it’s not unbearable and I work with nice people, and that’s not a popular opinion. You’re not supposed to hate your job unless your job is shitty and unfair and your boss is a jerk. It’s the institution that wears on me, leaves me exhausted and depressed at the end of every day. We’re told to value our jobs, to take pride in them, to care about our companies, to occupy ourselves with building meaningful careers. That’s normal. That’s expected. And everyone is such a fucking idiot that they buy into it.
There is no shame in hating the fact that you have to go to work. It doesn’t make you an ungrateful brat. It means you recognize how utterly, wholly, fucking pointless this all is.
My job is in nonprofit. My entire job exists because money exists. It’s not like I’m making something that society actually needs, like shoes or bikes or food. I earn money (very little, but I digress) solely on the premise that money is needed to accomplish my organization’s goal. Nonprofit is great in the sense of having a positive impact on the community, but at its core, the premise is utterly ridiculous. In a world without money, there would be no need for nonprofits. We can only give scholarships to a handful of students because we only have a handful of money, but that doesn’t mean others aren’t qualified! What of them? They take out loans, make the rich bankers richer. Or they forego their education altogether, and society suffers.
The world has been very overwhelming for me lately. Work, lack of motivation, lack of passion, lack of friends because everyone sucks, lack of hobbies because what’s the point. I’m more financially stable now than I’ve ever been in my life, but fundamentally, no happier. The more I understand how fucking awful the world is — and I don’t just mean a handful of shitty politicians or asshole drivers, I mean the very basic premise that society is founded upon: money, greed, wealth, possessions, and keeping everyone blind to it — is so overpowering that sometimes I feel like I can’t breathe.
And I nearly always feel so, so alone.
Utterly unsurprising. I’m so glad they’re doing this research, though it’s sickeningly ironic that they did it on mice. -_-
Our readers went all TMZ on famous and historical pop culture icons.
This is what makes people’s blind love of public figures so terrifying You have no idea who these people are. All you hear is what the media feeds you, or you like the way they portray a role. You haven’t spent time with them. You don’t know who they are when the cameras stop rolling. Celebrities shouldn’t be role models. Look at the people in your real life that you respect — people who have actually proven themselves to you. And if you don’t have anyone like that in your life, it should be your goal to be that kind of person.
The claim ‘they can’t advertise that or else they could get sued’ is a wicker shield at best.
This was right up my alley. Unsurprisingly depressing, but worth knowing.
I don’t follow the Oscars. I don’t care. I don’t know why everyone else cares whether an elite group of the world’s wealthiest show up wearing $5,000 dresses to win a meaningless statue and then everyone gets super excited when one of them talks about some charity they’re supporting like they’re some saint who’s actually giving up their life of luxury to make this cause happen.
But I do know that Ellen’s supposedly vegan, so why is she all hyped over passing out fucking pizza to everyone? At least that’s what I’m unavoidably seeing plastered all over the Internet.
Ugh, just, everyone.
My carnist coworker just asked for the vegan carrot soup recipe I mentioned last week.
Today is a good day.
The mind in which anger arises is also the mind that holds it, hides it, fans it, justifies it, or suppresses it. That’s why this first step is crucial—before we can understand, befriend, tame, and transform our anger, we have to recognize it clearly and acknowledge it frankly. This is no small task. Self-awareness is a precondition for understanding and healing our anger. If we become aware of the workings of our mind we can discover the means by which we create our anger and the key to healing it. If we become aware that we are harboring irrational beliefs, ideas with false premises, mistaken assumptions or flawed logic, we can examine them and correct them. If we discover that we cherish ideas which are not in harmony with the realities of life and nature we can learn to relax into existence. If we find that we harbor desires, hopes, and expectations which cannot be achieved we have the option of letting them go.
Photo by Terry Majamaki.
Yeah, my top post is 267 notes and growing for nothing. Actually, it’s a reblog retort by some “abolitionist vegan” crying milk was rape. I deleted it after 100 notes to shut the tofu nazis up. Don’t have to look at the notes anymore though on my activity page, so I’ll just collect the tears and use it to season my steak. I think there’s some kind of bug though, because they still pop on the dash, but I barely read that anyways. XD
But yes, that’s at least 260 people that think drinking a glass of milk makes you a rapist on this shitty website. Combined with the other idiots I heard from, it’s like at least 320 people. So this is a mainstream Tumblr opinion I guess.
This is horrible!!! My empathy lies with you. To feel like you are in the minority with your stances, is such a terrible feeling to have. I wouldn’t wish it on anybody.
I can’t tell you the instances where I’ve had to explain basic mammalian biology to an uneducated vegan.
I explain to them that cows unlike every single other land mammal in the history of existence does not have to be sexually penetrated first in order to lactate. They are not like humans or dogs or cats or elephants or tigers or lions or moose or deer, etc…Cows are a medical anomaly in which they become impregnated just by simply giving them kisses on their forehead.
Sure, the vegan propaganda machine might say that the industry uses a tool that they self describe as a “rape rack” in order to get the cows pregnant which in turn creates the milk that was obviously biologically designed for humans, not their own offspring. But I think that’s just a bunch of PETA nonsense. At worse, they use a tool called a “non-consensual sexual penetration rack”.”Rape rack” just sounds so crass.
Doesn’t “non-consensual sexual penetration” sound so much better? The word “rape” has such a negative connotation. But “non-consensual sexual penetration” has a lot more flair I think.
Vegans don’t get that if an action is normalized by society, then it inherently just can’t be insanely unethical. Ethics are based on a majority vote. If lots of people consume milk, then how in the world could it be unethical? You don’t even have to look at it from a conceptual standpoint.
I wish you luck fighting this with vegans. It’s going to be a tough battle…they have some seriously messed up indoctrinated, and conditioned beliefs. They don’t understand all the hard work that a human being has done to become a human being, to make them more entitled to basic empathy. The cow was too stupid to not have been born human, therefore not entitled to body autonomy.
Just ask people how this narrative is correct. They won’t steer you wrong. After all, the last thing the dairy industry wants is an uneducated public believing in nonsense like mammals have to become impregnated through sexual penetration in order to lactate. Ha! The crazy shit vegans believe.
Wow, you assholes won’t let it go will you? The only people around here that are raping cows are probably you and you’re hippie vegan Nazi friends because you’re obviously the experts on when you think an animal without the ability of rational thought can give consent. How else are you going to figure that out without plenty of first hand experience? It’s obvious your fetisism for animals goes beyond simple appreciation into something a bit more bizzare.
Farming is a positive aspect of human civilization that is never going away no matter how much you cry over it. The thing that’s abnormal here regarding human behavior is a bunch of entitled assholes who shove their superiority complexes in other people’s faces over their diets because they have self esteem issues. Take your propaganda and stick it up your collective asses.
And I don’t have to battle anything. I win as a default, and my position will always be the default. No one gives a flying monkey fuck that cows have to be inseminated to give milk that is sold in every grocery store in the United States and will continue to be 200 years after you’re dead. Sucks to be you doesn’t it?
Hey…..let’s relax, here. I’m on your side. What’s the problem? You don’t have to be so mean.
“The only people around here that are raping cows are probably you and you’re hippie vegan Nazi friends because you’re obviously the experts on when you think an animal without the ability of rational thought can give consent. How else are you going to figure that out without plenty of first hand experience?”
I’m with ya. If an animal simply can’t communicate in a specific language that a human would understand that they don’t want to be sexually penetrated, then the perfectly sane thing to do would be to just assume that they do. That’s how logic works. If you ever see any animal, just remember that since they can’t say the word “no” in a language that a human understands, then what other options would you have than to violate them? The answer “none”.
And of course, these animals do not have the ability of rational thought. Look at this:
What a dumbass! Doesn’t he know you’re supposed to use your hands when you open a door. Cows have hands right? Btw…..what’s he leaving for? I bet he’s just trying to tell me wants to be slaughtered. Unless he tells me otherwise, I’ll have no idea.
"The thing that’s abnormal here regarding human behavior is a bunch of entitled assholes who shove their superiority complexes in other people’s faces over their diets because they have self esteem issues. Take your propaganda and stick it up your collective asses."
You took the words right out of my mouth.When somebody is telling you something you don’t want to hear, then obviously they are a bunch of poopy-faced stupidheads who just want to make people feel uncomfortable. I’m so sick and tired of living in a world where I have to think about concepts and be able to argue them on those levels. What in the world is that going to do? I much prefer ad hominem attacks and childish name calling as that is how you win any debate. Just ask an 8 year old.
"And I don’t have to battle anything. I win as a default, and my position will always be the default."
Well…as my previous post indicates, this makes total sense. When the majority of people make an action the default position (a.k.a….the normal one), then how wrong could it be? It just simply doesn’t have to defended if society chest-poundingly asserts that it’s ok.
When have you ever in this long history of the human species, seen an instance where that bit of logic doesn’t hold true? I gotta hurry up with this. I’m running real late for a public hanging. I got great seats and I don’t want to miss it.
“No one gives a flying monkey fuck that cows have to be inseminated to give milk that is sold in every grocery store in the United States and will continue to be 200 years after you’re dead.”
There ya go…..if people don’t care…then that’s that. I hate that there are certain vegans who don’t like people. I’ll never get why you wouldn’t like a species that doesn’t care about it’s collective actions, just so long as nothing has to change, because even though we are the most intelligent species, the idea of changing angers us to no end. What’s there not to like?
We should keep on doing something because we’re used to the idea of it.
You run a troll account on Tumblr that spent that much time writing a sarcastic retort that’s about as funny as cancer to me telling you to go fuck yourself. Seriously, how much of a failure at life do you have to be to be spending this much time getting this blue in the face probably jamming your keyboard in anger over something that you are NEVER going to have the ability to change? Have you ever even had sex? I’m guessing not. And no, you raping cows doesn’t qualify as sex.
Good, I can feel your anger. The vegans are defenseless against your cow-rape jokes. They have no reason to try changing something if they might not be successful.
Take your blog. Strike vegansmustbestopped down with with all of your hatred, and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
“Farming is a positive aspect of human civilization that is never going away no matter how much you cry over it. The thing that’s abnormal here regarding human behavior is a bunch of entitled assholes who shove their superiority complexes in other people’s faces over their diets because they have self esteem issues. Take your propaganda and stick it up your collective asses.”
When someone is psychologically damaged (or just… extremely unintelligent?) enough to make statements like this, arguing with them is not only pointless, but insulting to our own intelligence. As one of my favorite quotes states, “It is impossible to reason someone out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.” Put simply, this is not a reasonable person. Logic will not work. They simply want to be right. (I’m reminded of Ken Ham during the debate.) Some people cannot be reached, at least not by logic or compassion.
Let us take a deep breath and simply hope that something jarring enough happens in their life that might allow their insecurities and their sick, violent paradigms to evolve into something more positive. When a lifestyle of compassion drives someone to anger, that person can only be described as a psycopath. What this person needs is compassion. Or at the very least, for us to stop feeding their anger.
I think what I’m trying to say is, just ignore the bastard. Don’t let it get to you. Veganism is the future, and we know it. Assholes like this were around during the civil rights movement and every other positive change, too. It’s just part of the deal.
I certainly wouldn’t support everyone’s “own belief systems,” because people have very different values and ideas of morality. Not all belief systems are created equal. (Hitler, anyone?) The key is to cultivate logical thought processes and a lifestyle of non-harm that extends to every part of life — and when I refer to “harm” I mean anything that doesn’t promote wellness. That includes mental/emotional harm (i.e. buying into the bullshit marketing propaganda), physical harm (poor diet/fitness), harm to others (lack of kindness; exploitation), harm to the planet (lack of environmental sensitivity), harm to other creatures (non-veganism), psychological harm (religion; faith-based belief systems, etc).
As long as a personal belief system fulfills that criteria, I’ll support it. But I think there’s far too much “let everyone do and think what they want because U R UNIQUE AND PERFECT JUST THE WAY U R” that results in carnists childishly defending their love of bacon, obese people dying of heart attacks, and so on. No lifestyle is admirable if it includes unnecessary harm, direct or indirect, to yourself or anything else.
Anyway, the core principles here, yes, good.
I’m sick of people thinking they’re better than others because they:
-are a vegetarian/vegan
-aren’t vegetarian and make a point to talk about how delicious bacon is in front of those who don’t eat meat
-consume/wear only organic things
-hit the gym every day and practice fat shaming
I have difficulty finding examples of vegans who say they’re better than others. It’s out there, but actual examples of it are few and far between.
Most of the time, vegans just talk about really bad things that happen, and suggest ways to avoid contributing to those really bad things. Sometimes (though not often enough), we’ll even cite sources and stuff. And, I’ll admit, vegans sometimes get passionate about the really bad things.
Then people ignore all those really bad things, and talk about how vegans think they’re better than others.
It’s actually really, really weird to experience. How many subjects can one talk about, and then find the conversation invariably shifting to the subject of “you think you’re better than others?”
Imagine talking about good ideas to reduce your carbon footprint, or mourning for the pointless deaths of religious wars, or talking about who you’re voting for in the next election. Then—neglecting the issue at hand—the other person’s reply is “Well, someone thinks they’re so pure and good. You’re so pretentious!”
That would be a pretty jarring and off-topic response, right?
No one is inherently “better” than someone else in terms of being born with more intrinsic worth, but the truth is, if you have a murderer and a non-murderer, are you really going to say that both are equally good people living equally acceptable lifestyles?
Veganism reduces suffering, negative environmental impact, and negative economic impact. Carnism does the opposite. I can’t generalize for the entire community of vegans — for instance, how do you measure a vegan who steals from others against a carnist who spends their life volunteering in a third world country? I honestly don’t know — but for the sake of argument, if we’re referring to two people who are relatively morally equal aside from veganism, I have no problem saying the vegan is absolutely a better person. We’re not talking Atkins vs WeightWatchers vs paleo. Veganism is not a dietary preference. Regardless of individual vegans, veganism itself, as a lifestyle, IS morally superior to carnism by FAR, so far that they’re not even on the same scale. And I will absolutely condemn someone who understands the suffering caused by their habits and chooses to do nothing about it, because that is the behavior of a psychopath.
People who complain that vegans think they’re “better” clearly have some major insecurity issues themselves. If you were completely confident in the morality of your own lifestyle I highly doubt vegans’ attitudes would affect you at all. Maybe you should take a deeper look into yourself. There’s always the shocking possibility that you’re the one doing something wrong.
I will admit there are obnoxious and pretentious vegans in the world, but I’ve never met anyone who’s said or even implied, “I’m better than you because all of my clothes are organic cotton.” (Granted, it is better to do that, but few can afford it.) Has someone really said that to you? Because to me it looks like you’re projecting your own feelings of inferiority onto someone else’s behavior. If someone mentions that their apple is organic or that they work out every day, sorry, but you’re not allowed to interpret that as, “I am a superior human to you.” And if you do, it’s your own insecurities speaking, not the individual in question.
Bottom line, working out is healthy, obesity is unhealthy, veganism is good, carnism is bad, organic is good, non-organic is not so great. Get over the fact that some people are working hard and sacrificing to make themselves and the planet better, and god forbid they think others should do the same. We share this planet, and that means everyone has an obligation to take care of the environment, the economy, other creatures, and themselves the best they are able. Not the best they feel like doing based on their desires or cravings; the best they are able. Period.
Nearly identical to the anti-gay legislation recently passed in Arizona, Georgia’s “Preservation of Religious Freedom Act” would give individuals, businesses and other entities, including government employees, the right to discriminate against gay people or other groups currently protected by civil rights laws. While the stated intention of the bill is to allow people to “exercise their religion,” the reality is that the legislation would provide a free pass for business owners who believe homosexuality is a sin to openly deny gay Americans employment or service. This bill is a slap in the face to the LGBT community and everyone who believes in equality and civil rights. And the legislation would extend beyond protecting those who want to discriminate against gay Americans. According to the New Republic, under the new Arizona law, “a restaurateur could deny service to an out-of-wedlock mother, a cop could refuse to intervene in a domestic dispute if his religion allows for husbands beating their wives, and a hotel chain could refuse to rent rooms to Jews, Hindus, or Muslims.” It would allow physicians and nurses to refuse medical care that they find religiously offensive such as blood transfusions and allow government employees who adhere to extremist religions to refuse service to a person of a particular race. It is shameful that this is a conversation that we need to have at all. The “Preservation of Religious Freedom Act” is a disgraceful misstep and an embarrassment to our state. Tell your lawmaker to support the rights of all Georgians and to reject legislation that promotes discrimination.
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